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Old 07-12-2011, 01:03 AM
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Default Edge and Superchips racing letter.... good read

Edge Products and Superchips have been, and continue to be, proud supporters of competitive diesel motorsports across the United States and Canada. We proudly support and sponsor organizations such as NHRDA and NADM that promote legal racing and diesel competition in cities and towns all across North America. Despite our continued support of diesel motorsports, we have made the strategic decision to discontinue our Edge Racing and Superchips Racing products effective immediately. We will not accept new orders for Edge and Superchips Racing products as of July 12, 2011.

Edge Products and Superchips will no longer offer for sale Edge Racing and Superchips Racing-branded diesel, tuning products in the United States. Unfortunately, we believe a portion of dealers and consumers are exploiting the intended use of these products which has a negative impact on the future of this industry.

Prior to launching the Edge Racing and Superchips Racing brands, we undertook numerous preventive measures to ensure all dealers and consumers clearly understood the intended use of these products. In spite of our best efforts, we have concluded that these policies are not adequate to assure abuse is prevented. We have performed an exhaustive review of these measures, including numerous conversations with regulatory agencies such as EPA and CARB, in order to try to devise an effective way whereby we can assure ‘Racing’ products are used as intended. Based on our review, at this time, we do not believe there are adequate prevention measures available to the industry which provide those assurances.

We strongly encourage, for the long-term health of our industry, that all distributors, dealers and consumers of these or similar products made by other companies cease selling any electronic tuning product that contains the ability to disable any emissions system for late-model diesel trucks including (but not limited to) the DPF system, EGR system and Urea (exhaust fluid) injection. Per federal and state regulations, any registered vehicle is required to maintain its emissions systems unless it is used strictly and solely for racing. Unfortunately, even with the exhaustive, preventive measures we have taken, we do not feel it is possible to completely prevent abuse.

We have strong reason to believe all companies that continue to engage in the business of manufacturing, distributing, or selling these kinds of products in the United States will be subject to enforcement action from both the United States EPA and the California Air Resources Board. In the future, if we are able to devise a way to prevent abuse, we hope to re-establish the Edge Racing and Superchips Racing brands.

Below is a list/table that constitutes all Edge and Superchips Racing part numbers that will be immediately discontinued. The table below also identifies the appropriate street-legal replacement part number for the same application. All listed replacement parts can be found on the CARB Products in Progress list and either have been or will be tested for legal street use in the United States. If you have any questions, or would like to discuss this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact us. Our contact information is included below for your convenience.


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Old 07-12-2011, 04:30 AM
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Why is there nothing posted on the Superchips, Edge site or "Official" Super Chips Forum?
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:35 PM
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Email from Superchips to me:

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Hi Duane,

The letter you have below is 100% true for both the Edge Products and Superchips brands. The letter should provide you with a good understanding of what and why we are doing this, but if you have any additional questions or concerns please let me know.

Thank you,

Jason Starkey
POWERTEQ
www.superchips.com
www.edgeproducts.com
Office: 407-585-7071
Fax: 407-585-7094
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EPA/Feds, now look you did lol
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That is CRAZY!

My guess is feds are threatening to crack down on mfg's of these items. I imagine this (egr/dpf/etc delete) is a HUGE business these days. There had to be significant legal pressure for them to make this decision.
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the best part of all the emissions crap is "lets use more diesel to offset the particulate emissions"

to avoide particulate debate, lets assume for a moment that particulates are dangerous. how do D2 particulates compare to biofuel particulates? id like to start a discussion from there.

perhaps the answer is more biofuel and less dino?
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perhaps the answer is more biofuel and less dino?
Um, NO!! Have ya heard of ethanol??
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Um, NO!! Have ya heard of ethanol??
that crap is for gassers. im holding out hope for algae and other items that dont directly effect crops, etc. Algae has been in testing for fuel for over a year now and proving very viable. the hurdle seems to be in getting the production cost down.
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